[I wrote this in 2003. Due to other priorities I kept putting off updating this family history and and putting it online. Below is the text as it was written in 2003. Sorry about the Census record formatting at present. Some of the discoveries I made after the 2003 writing are: Frederick Kibler's full name was Gottlieb Frederick Kübler. He died in 1848 and his widow, Frederica Jane Kübler remarried to John Martin.]
The Kibler Family
Researching the Kibler family has been an adventure. When I first started this project 3 weeks ago, my plan was to put everything I knew about the Wenzel and Wolfe families on paper. My intent was to find as many extra records as I could to add to the family history. I wanted to flesh out an interesting story about our German immigrant ancestors. When I started, all that I knew about the Kibler family was that Catherine Kibler married George Wenzel on October 8, 1850 and her father was Frederick Kibler. I extensively searched for the Kibler family before, but had found nothing. That was about to change.
Discovering Elizabeth and Sophia
The following marriage was recorded in the records of Old Otterbein Church: “George Wenzel to Catherine Ribler on October 8, 1850 in Baltimore, Maryland”. Also recorded were the following Kibler records: Sophia Kibler, born June 15, 1840 was Baptized on February 7, 1841. Elizabeth Kibler, born May 29, 1838 was Baptized on February 7, 1841. Parents are listed as Frederick and Frederica Kibler.
My grandmother Helen Collins, told me that Catherine Kibler’s fathers name was Frederick. Sophia and Elizabeth Kibler were assumed to be a sisters of Catherine Kibler for several reasons. Catherine (Kibler) Wenzel is found in many Old Otterbein Church records. No other Kiblers are found in the records of Old Otterbein. Catherine Kibler’s middle name is recorded as Frederica in a Wenzel Bible record. Sophia and Elizabeth were names that Catherine used for her first children. In addition, the name Frederick matches the verbal history.
Discovering Caroline
As my grandmother and I went through all of her oldest photos, it was not clear how three photos fit into the family tree. My grandmother stated the person on the left is Caroline Loose. All that she remembers was that she was “Aunt Wenzel’s side”. I wrote this comment on the back of the photo. Recently, I looked for further clues in my grandmother’s belongings and found some. In a small memory book of Annie Wenzel’s from the 1880s, various friends and relatives signed and included a cute message. Three of the people that signed the book and penned a message were J.W. Loose, J. Albert Loose, and ‘your cousin’ Maria Loose. My next step was to research Census records to see what else could be revealed. The following 1870, 1880, and 1900 Census records are for the Loose family:
1870 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 19th Ward
Name Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles Loose 45 shoemaker Prussia
Caroline 35 Germany
William 13 Maryland
Elizabeth 9 Maryland
John W 7 Maryland
Mary 3 Maryland
Alfred 10 months Maryland
1880 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles A Loose 56 shoemaker Prussia
Caroline R wife 45 Germany
John W son 17 Maryland
Annie M daughter 13 Maryland
Julius A son 11 Maryland
Also shows Charles Loose’s parents were born in Prussia and Caroline’s
parents were born in Germany
1900 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland -
Name Relship Birth month Age Birthplace
Charles W Miles Jul 1865
34 Maryland
Annie M wife Apr 1868
32 Maryland
Caroline B daughter Aug 1896
3 Maryland
Raymond son Dec 1899 5 months Maryland
Caroline Loose m-in-law Sep 1835
64 Germany
Also - Charles & Anna had been married 4 years. Charles’ parents
were born in Maryland. Caroline Loose’s parent were born in
Germany. Caroline immigrated in 1836. She had been in the
U.S. 63 years.
Finding the Loose family in old Census records led to the discovery of a two researchers who had traced this line of the Loose family. Mr. Raymond Miles and Ms. Dean Pendleton are great-grandchildren of Caroline Loose and had considerable information about her. The information they had confirmed she was a Kibler. They even had a copy of the same picture that my grandmother had. From verbal history they knew Caroline’s father was named Frederick Kibler. Caroline Loose referred to her maiden name as Kubler, but at least one of her grandchildren were given Kibler as a middle name. Kibler is commonly respelled Kibbler, Kubler, Kuebler, or Kiebler when German Kübler’s came to America.
More About Elizabeth
Until recently the only information I had about Mary Elizabeth Kibler was that she was born on May 29, 1838 and was baptized on February 7, 1841 at Old Otterbein Church. That was until I responded to a query posted by Terry Snyder looking for help with a Kibler ancestor in 1800s Baltimore. Mr. Snyder’s grandfather was Charles P. Kibler, who was connected to a Mary Elizabeth Seacrist in York County, Pennsylvania. Mr. Snyder had much information about the Kibler family in York, Pennsylvania. The information that Mr. Snyder provided immediately got my attention. My grandmother had left a photo labeled “Elizabeth Seacrist, distant relative from York, PA”. This led to research to find out more about Mary Elizabeth Seacrist. There were actually two Ms. Seacrist’s connected to our Kiblers. Below are the Census records:
1880 Census - York County, Pennsylvania
Name Relnship Age Occupation Birthplace
Jacob Sechrist 51 Carpenter Pennsylvania
Marry wife 42 Maryland
Adam son 23 Carpenter Pennsylvania
Jacob son 20 Carpenter Pennsylvania
Annie daughter 19 Pennsylvania
Marry daughter 17 Pennsylvania
George son 15 Pennsylvania
Lucy daughter 12 Pennsylvania
Olive daughter 10 Pennsylvania
Harry son 6 Pennsylvania
Martha Kibler other 1 Pennsylvania
Also shows Jacob’s and Marry’s parents were born in Germany.
1900 Census - York County, Pennsylvania
Name Relship Birth month Age
Occupation Birthplace
Mary E Secrist May 1838
62 Maryland
Olive daughter Oct 1870
29 Pennsylvania
Martha Kibler niece Jan 1879 21 Pennsylvania
The 1900 Census record shows that Mary E Secrist was born in May 1838. This matches the date of birth found in the Old Otterbein Church record. She was living with her niece Martha Kibler, meaning her maiden name was probably Kibler. Also my grandmother had the photo labeled “Elizabeth Seacrist, distant relative from York, PA”. I believe we have our relative.
Discovering Charles
Discovering Elizabeth Kibler in York, Pennsylvania led to further discussions with Mr. Snyder and further research of other Kiblers in York County. Clearly there was another brother, because Mary Elizabeth Sechrist was living with a niece, Martha Kibler in the 1880 and 1900 Census. I searched the Census records in York County and found a small number of Kibler families. Just one Kibler was born in Maryland. He was Charles P Kibler. The Census records are as follows:
1880 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, Winterstown
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles P Kibler 43 laborer Maryland
Lydia A wife 43 keeps house Pennsylvania
Annie E daughter 13 laborer Pennsylvania
John F son 10 Pennsylvania
Charles P son 9 Pennsylvania
Amos W son 5 Pennsylvania
Martha A daughter 1 Pennsylvania
Susan E daughter 4 months Pennsylvania
1900 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, North Hopewell
Name Relship Birth month Age
Occupation Birthplace
Charles Kibler Oct 1845
54 farmer Maryland
Lydia wife May 1846
54 Pennsylvania
Susan daughter Feb 1880
20 Pennsylvania
Laura daughter Dec 1880
19 Pennsylvania
Also shows Charles and Laura had been married 21 years. Lydia had
2 children and both were alive.
1910 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, Church Street
Name Marital Stat Relationship Age
Occupation Birthplace
Charles P Kibler 63 farmer Maryland
Mimie Fisher single
boarder 62 Germany
1920 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, York Road
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Clyde T Snyder 37 farmer Pennsylvania
Susan E wife 40 Pennsylvania
Cyril C son 14 Pennsylvania
Winifred C daughter 13 Pennsylvania
Geraldine N daughter 10 Pennsylvania
Willard L son
8 Pennsylvania
Elizabeth S daughter 5 Pennsylvania
Titis C son 2 Pennsylvania
Charles P Kibler f- in law 75 Pennsylvania
Annie M Anderson boarder 42 Pennsylvania
Terry Snyder’s grandmother had passed down much information about the Charles P Kibler family. Charles P Kibler was born in Baltimore. His first wife was Mary Elizabeth Seacrist. Not the same one. This Mary Elizabeth Seacrist is possibly a sister-in-law to Mary Elizabeth Kibler Seacrist. Charles P Kibler’s first wife likely died in 1878 or 1879. Charles P Kibler’s second wife Lydia Snyder and all of his children appear in the 1880 Census with him. Information passed down from Mr. Snyder’s grandmother tells us that Charles P Kibler’s first five children were born to his first wife, Mary Elizabeth Seacrist. Their daughter Martha, was listed in two Census records in 1880. She was listed as a daughter to Charles P Kibler and as a niece to Mary E Sechrist. If Martha is a niece to Mary E Sechrist, then Charles P Kibler must be a brother to Mary E, Catherine, Caroline, and Sophia.
Finding Mom, Louise, John, and George
After finding Caroline Rebecca, Mary Elizabeth, Sophia, and Charles Peter, I decided to conduct a third extremely thorough search of the 1850 Census. Finally, I found the grand prize, the 1850 Census record for the Kibler family. Here it is:
1850 Census - Baltimore, Maryland, 19th Ward
Name Age Birthplace
Jane Kipler 38 Germany
Cath 17 Germany
Caroline 15 Germany
Louise 14 Germany
Eliz 13 Maryland
Sophie 12 Maryland
Jon 7 Maryland
Peter 5 Maryland
George 3 Maryland
The names and birth order for Catherine, Caroline, Elizabeth, Sophia,
and Charles Peter matched perfectly. The ages were mostly correct
or off by one year. The surprise was the first name of the mother.
In the Old Otterbein Church record, Frederick and Frederica Kibler were
listed as the parents of Elizabeth and Sophia. Jane could be a
middle or first name or a nickname. The possibility that
Frederica died and Frederick remarried to Jane is dispelled by a
Baltimore City Directory listing in 1851 for Frederica Kibler.
This is the only year that she appears. Usually women were only
listed if they were employed or recent widows.
The Other Frederick
In the 1860 Census only four Kibler families lived in Maryland. Three of these families lived in Cecil County and were born in Pennsylvania. The fourth Kibler lived in Baltimore. His name was Frederick Kibler and he was born in Württemberg in 1828. There was also Kubler family in Baltimore, but they were born elsewhere. Circumstantial evidence (name, birthplace, only Kibler) leads me to believe that this Frederick Kibler may be connected to our Kibler family. I am not certain how. He was born in 1824 and thus is not likely to be a son of Frederica Jane Kibler who was born in 1812. He is too young to be the father, Frederick Kibler. Catherine Kibler was born when he was 8. He might be a nephew to the elder Frederick. There are many other possibilities. He may not be related at all.
On May 30, 1855, this younger Frederick Kibler married Mary Ann Livesey. She was born in England in 1835. Frederick and Mary Ann Kibler had three children, Albert (1859-), Mary E (1865-), and Ross F (1867-).
1860 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 20th Ward
Name Age Occupation Birthplace
Frederick Kibler 35 machinist Germany
Mary 25 England
Albert 9 months Maryland
Alice Livsay 22 England
1870 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 8th District
Name Age Occupation Birthplace
Frederick Kibler 46 machinist Wuertemburg
Mary A 34 keeping house England
Albert 11 Maryland
Mary E 5 Maryland
Ross F 3 Maryland
1880 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 19th Ward
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Frederick Kibler 56 retail grocer Wuertemburg
Mary A wife 46 keeping house England
Mary E daughter 14 Maryland
Ross F son 13 apprentice to butcher Maryland
Also Frederick Kibler’s parents were born in Wuertumburg. Mary’s
parents were born in England
The younger Frederick Kibler is found in the city directory for Baltimore City in 1858, 1859, 1860, and 1864. He is not found in the directory from 1836 to 1857.
Baltimore City Directories
1858 Frederick Kibler, engineer, h 92 Dolphin
1858-59 Frederick Kiblea, engine & locomotive builder, h 92 Dolphin
1860 Frederick Kibler, engine & locomotive builder, h 92
Dolphin
1864 Frederick Kibler, machinist, corner of Townsend & John
Kibler Homeplace
Census records firmly establish that the first three Kibler children were born in Germany. The records that are more specific, such as the ones for Catherine Kibler Wenzel’s children, state she was born in Württemberg. Years ago Dean Pendleton and siblings asked her father where Caroline Loose was born. Her father said it sounded like Bach (like the composer) num, so they wrote that down. There are only two cities in Germany that we could find that resemble the spelling “Bachnum”. One is Bochum. However, this is pronounced Boke-oom and is located in Westphalia. The other city is Backnang. The German pronunciation of Back is similar to Bach. The ‘a’ in Nang also sounds like the ‘ah’ in Bach. Backnang is in Wüertemburg. This is likely the birthplace of Caroline Kibler. One would suspect that Backnang was homeplace of the Kibler family. Likely the parents, Frederick and Frederica Jane as well as children Catherine, Caroline, and Louise were born in Backnang.
Backnang, Württemberg, Germany
The biggest city and capitol of Württemberg is Stuttgart. Backnang is a small town 19 miles northeast of Stuttgart. In 1835 the population of Backnang was around 5,000. Today more than 35,000 live in Backnang. Backnang developed originally from its historic roots in the textile and leather processing industry to a High-Tech area today. Many old half-timbered houses and buildings decorate the historic marketplace. The town also features a church that was built in the 13th century. The town is a gateway to the Swabian Frankish forest.
Kibler Immigration
Catherine, Caroline, and Louise Kibler were born in Germany in 1832, 1835, and 1836. Elizabeth and the other children were born in Maryland starting in May 1838. This sets the time frame for the Kibler family’s arrival in America between 1836 and 1838. The 1900 Census record for Caroline Kibler Loose more specifically shows that the Kibler familly immigrated to the United States in 1836. However, her death certificate stated at the time of her death in 1902, she had been in the country 64 years. This indicates she immigrated in 1837 or 1838. I tend to lean towards the 1836 date, since that year was specifically provided when Caroline Loose was alive. She may have given the information to the census taker herself. Catherine Kibler Wenzel’s death certificate in April 1900 states she had been in the country 60 years. The family definitely was in Maryland before 1840, since Elizabeth Kibler was born in Maryland in 1838. Death certificate information is not always reliable. I have not been able to find the Kiblers on a ship passenger list as of yet.
Before 1830, Germans left their home country for primarily economic and religious reasons, rather than political reasons. During the period between 1830 and 1848, Germans emigrated for economic, religious, and/or political reasons.
Frederick Kibler - Baltimore, Maryland
At present we have not been able to find Frederick Kibler in the Baltimore City Directory at any point during his lifetime. We do know that his son Charles P Kibler was born in Baltimore, Maryland in 1845. During the 1840 Census Frederick Kibler was living in Baltimore:
1840 Census, Ward 12
Fredk Kiebler, 1 male 30-40, 2 females 5-10, 1 female 20-30
The record reaffirms that Frederica Jane was born around 1812. The record also establishes that Frederick Kibler was born between 1810 and 1820. Since his first daughter Catherine was born in 1832, Frederick Kibler was likely born closer to 1810 than to 1820. The question the 1840 Census record raises is “Where are the 3 females under 5 years old?” The most likely conclusion is that the census taker had trouble communicating with the German speaking Kibler family.
Frederick Kibler’s Death
In 1850, only Jane Kibler appears in the Census. She is listed with all of the children. Since Frederick is not listed, he probably died before 1850. In 1851, Frederica is listed in the Baltimore City directory. This is further indication that Frederick recently passed away. Females were usually only listed in the directory if they had an occupation or were recent widows. The youngest son, George was born in 1847. The logical conclusion is that Frederick Kibler died sometime between 1846 and 1850.
First Child - Catherine Kibler
Catherine Kibler was born on November 11, 1832 in Württemberg, Germany. It is assumed that she was born in the small town of Backnang, since her sister, Caroline was likely born there, 3 years later. Catherine’s gravestone gives us her birthdate. Census records in 1850, 1860, 1870, and 1880 and her death certificate confirm she was born around 1832. The 1860, 1870, and 1880 Census records note her birthplace as Hesse C G, Wertemberg, and Wurtemburg. All other records for Catherine Kibler Wenzel show her birthplace as Germany, except for 2 records. The 1920 Census record for her son Charles F Wenzel shows her birthplace as Hesse-Darmstadt. The 1920 Census record for her son Joshua H Wenzel shows her birthplace as Mainz. I believe these entries are confusing her birthplace with her husbands. Württemberg is a region (state) of Germany, just as Hesse-Darmstadt is a region (state). The regions are close to each other. One less likely possibility is that Catherine Kibler was born in Backnang and later moved to Mainz, before emigrating.
Since George Wenzel and Catherine Kibler were from different parts of Germany and they arrived in America at different times, it is not likely that they knew each before George Wenzel arrived in Baltimore. With an October 1850 marriage, one would assume that the courtship would have begun at least a few months prior. Considering George Wenzel is not found in the Census conducted in early July 1850 or any other record prior to October 1850, one might assume he arrived in Baltimore in July 1850. He possibly arrived several months earlier. Recent immigrants without established homes can easily be missed by a census taker.
Catherine Kibler and George Wenzel had 13 children. The details are included in Section 3.
Catherine (Kibler) Wenzel died 6 years later at age 67 on April 20, 1900. Her death certificate lists her address as 1428 Gilmore St., Baltimore, Maryland. It gives her birthplace as Germany and states she had lived in Baltimore for 60 years. The cause of death was (primary) apoplexy, (secondary) exhaustion. She was sick for 2 days. She was buried at Loudon Park on April 22, 1900.
A newspaper clipping of a death notice from Helen Collins’ materials reads as follows:
Wenzel - On April 20, 1900, Catherine, aged 67 years, widow of the late George Wenzel. The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral services at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. Olive E. Frock, 1428 North Gilmor street on Sunday afternoon at 3 o'clock. Interment at Loudon Park.
Second Child - Caroline Kubler (1835-1902)
From information passed down through the Loose family, her death certificate, and gravestone, Caroline Rebecca Kibler was born on September 3, 1835 in Backnum, Wüertemberg, Germany. The 1900 Census gives her immigration date as 1836. Caroline married Charles A Loose on February 7, 1852. Charles Loose was born June 9, 1824 in Hereford, Westphalen, Prussia, the son of Carl Albert Loose and Marie Caroline Fensch.
Charles and Caroline Loose had 9 children.
1900 Census - Baltimore City,
Maryland - 2139 Pennsylvania Ave
Name
Relship Birth Month Age Occupation Birthplace
William Loose Apr 1857
43 barber Maryland
Louisa C
wife Jan 1859
41 Maryland
Charles son Sept 1880 19 hat
salesman Maryland
Catherine daughter Jan 1883
17 Maryland
William Jr. son Apr 1886
14 Maryland
Rieda A
daughter Apr 1888
12 Maryland
Also shows William and Louisa married for 20 years. William
and Louisa’s parents born in Germany.
1910 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 2139 Pennsylvania Ave
Name Relationship Age Occupation
Birthplace
William F Loose 50 barber in
own shop Maryland
Louisa C wife 51 Maryland
Rieda A daughter 22 Maryland
Also shows William and Louisa married for 30 years. William
and Louisa’s parents born in Germany.
Louisa had 4 children, all 4 were living.
Louise died June 26, 1911. William remarried to Mary E before 1920.
1920 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - st?
Name Relationship Age Occupation Birthplace
William F Loose 62 Clerk for Md insurance co. Maryland
Mary E wife 50 Maryland
Also shows William and Mary’s parents were born in Germany.
William died May 22, 1928 at age 71 and is buried at Loudon Park Cemetery.
Elizabeth Charlotte Loose was born on March 3, 1861 in Baltimore. She was also known as Lizzie. Lizzie married Frederick Miller on December 3, 1894 most likely in York Couunty, Pennsylvania. Frederick and Lizzie had five known children, George (1895-), Rieda (1896-), Barbara (1899-), Herbert (ca1904-), and Lester (ca1906-).
1880 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 19th Ward
Name Relaship Age Occupation Birthplace
William Shannon 42 treasurer for land company Maryland
Elizabeth H. Shannon wife 39 keeps
house Maryland
Elizabeth Loose other 19 servant Maryland
Also shows Williams’ parents were born in Ireland, Elizabeth
Shannons’ parents were born in Maryland, Elizabeth Loose’s parents
were born in Germany.
1900 Census - York County, Pennsylvania,
Name Relship Birth Month Age Occupation
Birthplace
Frederick Miller Jan 1847
53 carpenter
Pennsylvania
Lizzie C wife Mar 1861
39 Maryland
George E son Nov 1895
4 Pennsylvania
Rieda E
daughter Nov 1896
3 Pennsylvania
Barbara
daughter Dec 1899
5 months Pennsylvania
Also shows Frederick and Lizzie were married 7 years. Lizzie
had 5 children and 3 were alive. Frederick’s and Lizzie’s
parents were born in Germany.
1910 Census - York County, Pennsylvania - York City, 42 South
Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Frederick Miller 48 carpenter at a shop Pennsylvania
Lizzie wife 48
Maryland
George C son 14
Pennsylvania
Rieda daughter 13 Pennsylvania
Barbara daughter 10 Pennsylvania
Herbert son 6 Pennsylvania
Leter son 4 Pennsylvania
Also shows Frederick and Lizzie were married for 17 years.
Lizzie had 5 children, all 5 were living. Both Frederick’s and
Lizzie’s parents were born in Germany.
John Wesley Loose was born on April 3, 1862 in Baltimore. He was known as Wes. Wes wrote in Annie Wenzel’s memory book “A friend in need is a friend indeed; A girls best friend is her lover, J.W. Loose”. Wes married Margarette on December 31, 1885 in Baltimore. She was born in August 1867 in Maryland. Her last name is possibly Heinline. At the time of the 1900 Census, Wes’es occupation was manufacturing molding. Wes and Margarette had three sons, Albert Wesley (1887-), Clyde Eugene (1889-), and Carroll L (1897-).
1900 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 3rd District,
Reisterstown Road
Name Relship Birth Month
Age Occupation Birthplace
John W Loose Apr 1863
37 manufactures molding
Maryland
Margaret
wife Aug 1867 32
Maryland
Albert W
son Jan 1887
13 Maryland
Clyde E
son Jul 1889
10 Maryland
Carroll L
son Jul 1897
2 Maryland
Also shows John and Margaret had been married 14 years.
Margaret had 3 children, all 3 alive.
1910 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 11th Ward, 1327 Bolton
Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Margaret Loose (widow) 42 Maryland
Albert W son 23 manager at auto storage
Maryland
Clyde E daughter? 20 asst manager at auto storage
Maryland
Karl L son 12
Maryland
Hattie M Miller servant 24 seamstress for family Maryland
Also shows Margaret had 3 children, all 3 alive. Margaret had
been married 24 years. Margaret’s parents were born in
Germany. Hattie and the children’s parents were born in
Maryland.
John Wesley Loose died in Baltimore on April 14, 1910 at the age of 58. Margarette died in Baltimore on March 16, 1953 at the age of 85. Both are buried at Druid Ridge Cemetery in Baltimore.
Anna Marie Loose was born on April 13, 1868 in Baltimore. She was also known as Maria and as Annie. Maria wrote in Annie Wenzel’s memory book “Dear Annie, This page was without a spot untill I wrote forget me not, Your Cousin, Maria Loose”. Anna Maria married Charles Wesley Miles on November 7, 1895 in Baltimore. He was born September 9, 1864, the son of John Wesley Miles and Catherine Videl. Charles and Anna had three children, Caroline Videl (1897-1976), Raymond Kibler (1899-1989), and Alfred Delno (1902-1987). Charles worked as a boilermaker for the Northern and Central Railroad for 20 years. He refused to transfer to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania when the operations moved.
1900 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 533 Gold Street
Name Relship Birth month
Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles W Miles Jul 1865
34 Maryland
Annie M wife Apr 1868
32 Maryland
Caroline B daughter Aug 1896
3 Maryland
Raymond son Dec 1899
5 months Maryland
Caroline Loose m-in-law Sept 1835
64
Germany
Also - Charles & Anna had been married 4 years. Charles’
parents were born in Maryland. Caroline Loose’s parent were
born in Germany. Caroline immigrated in 1836. She had
been in the U.S. 63 years.
1910 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 2124 Milbrook? Ave
Name Relaship Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles W Miles 45 Boilermaker at Railway shop Maryland
Annie M wife 43 Maryland
Caroline ? daughter 12 Maryland
Raymond H son 10
Maryland
Alfred D son 8 Maryland
Also - Charles & Anna had been married 14 years. Charles’
parents were born in Maryland. Annie’s parents were born in
Germany. Annie had 3 children, all alive.
1920 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 4504 Park Heights Avenue
Name Relationship Age Occupation
Birthplace
Charles W Miles 56 ironworker at construction co.Maryland
Annie M wife 53 Maryland
Caroline V daughter 22 clerk at railroad company
Maryland
Raymond son 20 ironworker at construction co.Maryland
Alfred D son 17 clerk at hotel Maryland
Charles’ parents were born in Maryland. Annie’s parents were
born in Germany.
1930 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 4358 Park Heights Avenue
Name Relship
Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles W Miles 68 ironworker Maryland
Mary A wife 62 Maryland
Alfred D son 27 riveter at ship yard Maryland
Charles’ parents were born in Maryland. Mary’s parents were
born in Germany.
Charles died on April 22, 1932 at the age of 67. Anna died on September 7, 1950, at the age of 82. Both are buried at Loudon Park Cemetery.
Julius Albert Loose was born August 13, 1869 in Baltimore. He was known as Albert. Albert wrote in Annie Wenzel’s memory book “Remember me, J. Albert Loose, March 1885, Balto, Md”. Albert married Mary Elizabeth Jewel on December 6, 1893. Mary was born in October, 1870 in Maryland. Julius Albert Loose and Mary had three children, Edna (1896-1902), Elizabeth (1893-), and Edna R (1902-1902).
1900 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 1509 Lauvale Street
Name Relaship Birth Month Age Occupation Birthplace
Albert Loose Aug 1868
31 singer Maryland
Mary E wife Oct 1870
29 Maryland
Elizabeth
daughter Sept 1893 6 Maryland
Edna daughter Mar 1896
4 Maryland
Anna M Immes boarder May 1831 69 (widow) Maryland
Bessie White boarder Apr 1879
21 Maryland
Also shows Albert and Mary married 7 years. Mary had 2
children, both alive. Albert’s parents were born in Germany.
Mary’s parents were born in Maryland. Anna M Innes had 4
children, all 4 alive.
1910 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 1509 Lauvale Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Julius A Loose 40 manager for moving pictures Maryland
Mary E wife 39 Maryland
Elizabeth daughter 15 Maryland
Frank McLaughlin boarder 30
Nova Scotia
Anna boarder 25 Florida
Annie Simms boarder 80 own income Maryland
William W Costin boarder 38 minister for religious work Canada
Also shows Julius & Mary married 16 years. Mary had 2
children, 1 is alive. Frank & Anna married 4 yrs
1920 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 1737 West North Avenue
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Julius A Loose 50 singer for marts & churches Maryland
Mary E wife 49 Maryland
George D Harsie boarder 24 draftsman for city hall
Pennsylvania
Elizabeth brds wife 23 Maryland
Also shows Julius’es parents were born in Germany. Mary’s
parents were born in Maryland.
1930 Census - Baltimore City, Maryland - 3610 Park Heights Avenue
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Julius Loose 60 salesman for tailoring Maryland
Mary E wife 59 Maryland
George Harmon s-in-law 34 draftsman for city
Pennsylvania
Elizabeth daughter 35 Maryland
Isabelle gdau 9 Maryland
Naimi Miesel boarder 24 Maryland
Also shows Julius and Mary were married 37 years. George and
Elizabeth were married 12 years.
Charles A Loose died on March 24, 1895 at age 70. Caroline died April 18, 1902 at age 66. Caroline’s death certificate stated she had been in the United States for 64 years. The gives an immigration date of 1837 or 1838. This is similar to the immigration year (1836) provided in the 1900 Census. Both are buried at Loudon Park Cemetery.
Third child - Louisa Kibler (1836-)
Louisa Kibler was born around 1836 in Germany. She was likely born in Backnang, Wuertemberg as her sister Caroline was likely born there a year earlier. Louise appeared in the 1850 Census with her mother and siblings. She possibly married before 1860, since no further records can be easily found for her after the 1850 Census.
Fourth child - Mary Elizabeth Kibler (1838-)
Mary Elizabeth Kibler was born on May 29, 1838 in Baltimore, Maryland. She was baptized on February 7, 1841 at Old Otterbein Church on the same day as her sister Sophia. Her parents Frederick and Frederica Kibler were witnesses. Sometime around 1856, she married Jacob Sechrist. Jacob was born around 1828 in Manchester, York County, Pennsylvania. Jacob and Mary Elizabeth had eight children.
Jacob Sechrist died in 1892. Mary Elizabeth Kibler Sechrist died after 1910.
1910 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 235 South Duke Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Mary E Seachrist (widow) 71 Maryland
Also shows Mary had 10 children, of which 7 are living. Her
parents were born in Germany.
Fifth child - Sophia Kibler (1840-)
Sophia Kibler was born June 15, 1840 in Maryland. She was baptized at Old Otterbein Church on February 7, 1841 on the same day as her sister Elizabeth. The following 1860 Census record is almost certainly our Sophia Kibler:
1860 Census - Baltimore County, Maryland, 19th Ward
Name Age Occupation Birthplace
Jacob Baker 40 butcher Maryland
Margaret 39 Maryland
Charles 18 butcher Maryland
Julia 16 Maryland
Samuel 14 Maryland
William W 12 Maryland
Sophia Kibbler 20 domestic Maryland
John Barthlow 33 butcher Maryland
Sixth child - John Kibler (1843-)
John Kibler was born around 1843 in Maryland. John appeared in the 1850 Census with his mother and siblings. By 1860, his mother had likely died. After a thorough search of the 1860 Census only one record could be found that is likely for John Kibler:
1860 Census - Carroll County, Maryland, Manchester District
Name Age Occupation Birthplace
John A Brown 47 farmer Maryland
Lydia 32 Maryland
Mary 7 Maryland
David 5 Maryland
John 3 Maryland
Hannah 4 months Maryland
Nancy 81 Maryland
Catherine Shaffer 20 servant Maryland
John Gibler 16 farm hand Maryland
John Gibler is the only Gibler listed in Maryland in 1860. So he does not appear to be from a stray Gibler family. After another thorough search of the1860 Census the only likely record for John’s 13 year old brother is found two households away. His name is spelled George Kippler. In 1870 Census, the two Brown families are intact, but do not include our John or George Kibler. There are a several possible John Kibler Census records from 1870 and later, but no record gives an extra clue (location, exact name, birth year) to lead me to believe that a specific record is our John Kibler.
Seventh child - Charles Peter Kibbler (1845-)
Charles Peter Kibler was born on October 26, 1845 in Baltimore, Maryland. Charles appeared in the 1850 Census with his mother and siblings. Sometime before 1866 he married Mary Elizabeth Seacrist. This Mary Elizabeth Kibler is probably related to Jacob Seacrist, who married Charles Kibler’s sister, Mary Elizabeth Kibler. Charles and Mary Elizabeth had 5 children:
John Henry Kibler was born in 1869 in Pennsylvania. John
married Mary S Melhorn of Mount Wolf, Pennsylvania about the year
1900. Mary was born around 1874 in Pennsylvania.
John and Mary had two children, Margaret L (1899-) and John
Frederick (1901-)
1910 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, Glen Rock, Manchester
Street
Name Relationship Age Occupation
Birthplace
John H Kibler 41 Farmer
General Farm Pennsylvania
Mary S wife 36 Pennsylvania
Margaret L daughter
11 Pennsylvania
John F son 9 Pennsylvania
Also shows John and Mary had been married 12 years. They had 2
children, both now alive.
1920 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, Glen Rock
Name Relationship Age Occupation Birthplace
John H Kibbler 50 Pennsylvania
Mary A wife 45 Pennsylvania
Margaret daughter
20 Pennsylvania
Frederick son 19 Pennsylvania
1930 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, Glen Rock, Washington
Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
John H Kibler 61 none Pennsylvania
Mary S wife 55 Pennsylvania
Also shows John’s age at first marriage was 29. Mary’s age at
first marriage was 25. John’s father was born in Maryland.
John’s mother was born in Pennsylvania. Mary’s parents were
born in Pennsylvania.
John Kibler died in York County, Pennsylvania in 1941.
Charles P Kibler Jr. was born around 1871 in Pennsylvania. He married Bertha I Rudisill sometime around 1894. She was born around 1877 in Pennsylvania. Charles and Bertha had 1 child, Gordon (1896-1968).
1910 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 572 West Market Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles P Kibbler 36 Fertilizer Salesman Pennsylvania
Bertha I wife 33 Pennsylvania
Gordon son 13 Pennsylvania
Also shows Charles and Bertha married for 16 years. They had 1
child who is still alive.
1920 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 572 West Market Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles P Kibbler 47 commercial traveler fertilizer
Pennsylvania
Bertha I wife 43 Pennsylvania
Gordon G son 23 commercial automobiles Pennsylvania
Vada E d-in-law 19 Maryland
Annie Rudisill m-in-law 71 (widow) Pennsylvania
1930 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 572 West Market Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Charles P Kibler 56 Poultry Merchant Pennsylvania
Bertha I wife 53 Pennsylvania
Also shows Charles and Bertha married for 26 years.
1930 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 572 West Market Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Gordon C Kibbler 33 orchestra - self Pennsylvania
Carolyn H wife 32 Illinois
Marylin G daughter 4 Pennsylvania
Gordon Kibbler was involved with musical number in 1930. “When Your Hair Has Turned To Silver I Will Love You Just The Same” Featured By Gordon Kibbler - Peter De Rose - Charlie Tobias - Joe Morris Music Co. - 1930
Charles P Kibbler died in 1937 in York County. His obituary is below:
December 20, 1937 - Charles P. Kibbler Removed By Death -
Former President of York County Fruit Growners Association Dies -
Funeral on Thursday -
Charles P Kibbler, a widely known York citizen, and a former president of the York County Fruit Growers association, died at 5:30 o’clock Saturday afternoon at the family residence, 572 West Market street, where the family has resided for the past twenty-eight years. He was stricken on November 23, and had been in impaired health since that time.
Mr. Kibbler was general sales manager for the Natural Lime-Marl company, Charlestown, W. Va. Prior to that for a period of eighteen years, he was general sales manager for the Eureka Fertilizer company, Baltimore, Md. Early in his life he was employed as a telegraph operator on the Baltimore division of the Northern Central railway for a period of nine years. Mr. Kibbler was sixty-five years old.
He was interested in fruit growing. He owned and developed a large peach and apple orchard at Hanover Junction which he later sold. He was a member of the Freidensaals Lutheran church, near Seven Valleys. He was a son of the late Mr. And Mrs. Charles Kibbler, Winterstown.
Mr. Kibbler is survived by his widow, Bertha I Kibbler; a son Gordon C. Kibbler, national representative of the Century Orchestra corporation, who resides at 2217 West Market street, West York; a granddaughter, Marilyn Jean Kibbler, West York; a brother Amos Kibbler, who resides in the western part of the United States; a sister, Mrs. Harvey Gibbons, who also resides in the West; two step-sisters, Mrs. Elmer Brenneman, York, and Mrs. Clyde Snyder, Winterstown.
The funeral will be held Thursday afternoon with service at his residence at 1 o’clock and concluding services in Friedensaal’s Lutheran church at 2 o’clock. Interment will be made in the cemetery adjoining the church. Rev. S.H. Culler will be the officiating minister. Funeral Directors C.A. Strack and Son prepared the body for burial.
Amos William Kibler was born on February 24, 1876 in York County, Pennsylvania. He went West at the turn on the century to fight in the Spanish-American War. He was a Sergeant in Company D, 7th Division U.S. Infantry. In 1910, he and 17 others were lodging at the residence of Ford C and Sarah W Spencer in Ely City, Nevada. In 1920, Amos had moved north and was living in the home of his younger sister Martha Ann Gibbons in Montana. He applied for a pension for his military service on April 28, 1928. He was living in Arizona at the time. In 1930 he and 8 others were lodging at the residence of Deborah Farley in Tucson, Arizona. Amos died on January 4, 1957 in Los Angeles, His birthdate and birthplace were listed as well as his mother’s maiden name, Seacrist. He is buried at the Los Angeles National Cemetery.
1910 Census - White Pine County, Ely City, Nevada
Name
Relationship Age Occupation Birthplace
Ford C Spencer
Sarah W Spencer
17 lodgers including
Amos W Kibbler
lodger 32 House Plasterer Pennsylvania
1930 Census - Pima County, Tucson, Arizona
Name Relationship Age Occupation Birthplace
Deborah Farley
8 lodgers including
Amos W Kibler lodger 54 House Plasterer Pennsylvania
Martha Anna Kibler was born in January 1879. In 1880, she was listed in the Census twice. One record shows her as a daughter living with her father Charles P Kibler and step-mother Lydia Snyder Kibler. Another record shows her as a niece living with her aunt Mary Elizabeth Seacrist. In 1880, Martha was almost a year and a half old. Her mother had died shortly after she was born, possible during childbirth. Her father remarried very quickly and had another child, Susan was born 13 months later. At the time of the 1880 Census, Susan had her own 4 month old baby and was pregnant. Aunt Elizabeth Seacrist probably offered to raise the Martha. Charles P Kibler and Susan agreed.
In 1900, Martha Kibler was 21 and living with her aunt. On June 8, 1902, Martha married John Harvey Gibbons in York County, Pennsylvania. The family moved to Montana by 1903. The record below shows their daughter Martha was born in Montana in 1903. Martha and Harvey divorced before 1920. This information was passed down by Terry Snyder’s grandmother and also is seen in this 1920 Census record:
1920 Census - Silver Bow County, Butte, Montana, 2550 Harrison
Avenue
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Elizabeth Gibbons divorced 38 Pennsylvania
Martha daughter 17 Montana
Amos Kibbler brother 39 Plasterer? Pennsylvania
I am not sure why Martha Anna Kibler’s name is listed as Elizabeth in the 1920 Census record. Maybe the Census taker reversed the names of the mother and daughter. I can’t find the 1910 or the 1930 Census record at present.
Mary Elizabeth Seacrist Kibler probably died in childbirth in January 1899. By the time of the 1880 Census Charles P Kibler was listed with a new wife. In 1880, the children of Charles and Mary were living with Charles, except for a 1 year old Martha who was living with her Aunt. Charles P Kibler most likely married Lydia Ann Snyder in 1879. Lydia Snyder was born in May 1846 in Pennsylvania. Charles and Lydia had two daughters:
Susan E. Kibler was born in February 1880 in York County, Pennsylvania. On May 12, 1904, she married Clyde T Snyder in York County. Clyde T Snyder was born in 1883 in Pennsylvania. Susan and Clyde had at least eight children: Cyril C (1905-1990), Winifred C (1906-), Geraldine N (1909-), Willard L (1911-1984), Elizabeth S (1915-), Titis C (1918-1998), Mildred L (1921-), and Kathryn (1924-).
1910 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, North Hopewell, Main
Street
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Clyde T Snyder 27 laborer at odd jobs Pennsylvania
Susan E wife 30 Pennsylvania
Cyril C son 4 Pennsylvania
Winifred C daughter 3 Pennsylvania
Geraldine daughter 10 months Pennsylvania
Also shows Clyde and Susan married 5 years. They had 3
children, all living.
See the Discovering Charles P Kibler section for the 1920 Census record for the Snyder family.
1930 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, North Hopewell,
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
T.C. Snyder 46 labor concrete road Pennsylvania
Susan wife 50 Pennsylvania
Willard R son 18 cigar roller in factory Pennsylvania
Elizabeth E daughter 14 Pennsylvania
Tydious C son 12 Pennsylvania
Mildred L daughter 9 Pennsylvania
Kathryn daughter 6 Pennsylvania
Also shows TC and Susan had been married 26 years.
Laura O. Kibler was born in December 1880 in York County, Pennsylvania. Laura married Elmer Breneman on April 24, 1904 in York County. Elmer Breneman was born in 1881 in Pennsylvania. Elmer and Laura had three children Gerald R (1904-), Evelyn L (1908-), and Ella L (1910-).
1920 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 241 Jefferson Avenue,
York
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Elmer T Breneman 38 laborer at shop Pennsylvania
Laura O wife 39 charge of stone georg Pennsylvania
Gerald R son 15 Pennsylvania
Evelyn L daughter 11 Pennsylvania
Ella L daughter 9 Pennsylvania
1930 Census - York County, Pennsylvania, 241 Jefferson Avenue,
York
Name Relship Age Occupation Birthplace
Elmer Breneman 49 machinist ice machinery Pennsylvania
Laura O wife 49 Pennsylvania
Evelyn L Miller daughter 21 Pennsylvania
Walter F Miller s-in-law 25 machinist ice
machinery Pennsylvania
Thomas J Miller grandson 2 yrs, 10 months Pennsylvania
Also shows Elmer and Laura had been married 26 years. Evelyn
and Walter married for 3 years.
Eighth child - George Kibler (1847-)
George Kibler was born around 1847 in Maryland. George appeared in the 1850 Census with his mother and siblings. By 1860, his mother had likely died. After a thorough search of the 1860 Census only one record could be found that is likely for George Kibler:
1860 Census - Carroll County, Maryland, Manchester District
Name Age Occupation Birthplace
David K Brown 36 farmer Maryland
Christena 27 Biren?, Germany
Laura 5 Maryland
Noah 3 Maryland
Mary 1 Maryland
George Kippler 13 Maryland
George Kippler is the only Kippler listed in Maryland in 1860. So he does not appear to be from a stray Kippler family. After another thorough search of the1860 Census the only likely record for George’s 16 year old brother is found two households away. His name is spelled John Gibler.
Additional Information discovered after the 2003 manuscript...
(Kibler, Kuebler, Kubler, Gibler, Kipler, Kepler) Are you looking
for a Sophia Kibler born 1840, John Kibler born 1843, or George Kibler
born 1847, all in Baltimore? I as well as as few other
researchers are looking for them and their descendants.
The record at the very bottom is for my ancestor Gottlieb Frederick
Kuebler who immigated from Germany around 1835 to Baltimore, Maryland.
Family history refers to him as Frederick Kibler or Frederick Kubler.
Until last year we knew very little about him and did not know other
researchers looking for him. The record at the bottom of this email is
the most revealing. I am connected through his daughter Catherine who
married George Wenzel, another researcher connects through his daughter
Caroline who married Charles Loose, a third researcher
connects to him through his son Charles Peter. We have also found much
about his daughter Elizabeth who married Jacob Sechrist. Charles Peter
Kibler and Elizabeth Sechrist moved to York County, PA.
We are still looking for 3 more of G. Frederick Kibler's children and
their descendents. Note that Fredericka Kuebler, his widow remarried to
John Martin in Baltimore. The missing children are...
Sophia Kibler who was born in 1840 and baptized at Old Otterbien Church
in Baltimore. In the 1860 Census in Baltimore she is 20 and living with
Jacob Baker and family. She likely married Charles F Heszler (or
Herzler) and had children Amelia, Harry, Julius, Charles, Lillie, Julia,
and William. The Herzler family is connected with a Christopher Kibler
who was born in 1836 in Wuertemburg, Germany. We are only about 75%
sure of the marriage and need to do more research.
John Kibler was born in 1843 in Baltimore. He appeared in the 1850
Census with his mother and siblings. In 1860, he was listed as John
Gibler and living in Carroll County, Maryland with the John A & Lydia
Brown family. He was next door to another Brown family that took in
his brother George. I have not been able to find him after 1860.
George Kibler was born in 1847 in Baltimore. He appeared in the 1850
Census with his mother and siblings. In 1860, he was listed as George
Kippler and living in Carroll County, Maryland with the David K &
Christena Brown family. He was next door to another Brown
family
with brother John. I have not been able to find him after
1860
________________
Gottlieb F. Kuebler - 2nd Administrative Account - Baltimore City
The second account of John Martin and Fredericka, his wife, formerly
Fredericka Kuebler, administrix of Gottlieb F. Kuebler, deceased.
These accountants charge themselves with the balance due on their last
account settled the 24th day of January 1854 and consisting of
a lot of ground fronting Pennsylvania Avenue, 17 feet and running back
to Cove Street, about 300 feet with the improvements thereon, being two
two-story frame dwellings and an old carpenter's shed at $610 and in
cash $369.12 -
$979.12
And the difference between the sales and appraisement of the above
leasehold property- $90
And with this sum being the amount of cash that was on hand at the time
of deceased's death, but omitted to be charged in the first account -
$30
And with cash received of Jacob Gracely for a debt due to the deceased -
$7
And with cash received for rent of the leasehold property from the 1st
of January 1854 to the 1st of March 1854 the time it was sold - $13.50
$1119.62
And they gave an allowance for the following:
Payments and Disbursements.
Cash paid Caspare Nichlaus for ground rent to 1st February 1854 per
receipt $9.75
Ditto paid Edward Dowling, Clerk of the Superior Court for recording
lease from John Pracht per receipt $4
Ditto paid Miss Glocker + Norris for commission for selling property and
examining records in relation to same, per account and receipt $30
Ditto paid registers fees and for copy of this account $6.42
These accountants commission on $140.50 at 10 per cent $14.05
Cash retained by these accountants on right of said Fredericka as the
widow of the deceased being in full proportion of the personal estate
$351.80
Ditto paid George Wenzel in right of his wife Catherine, a daughter and
one of the heirs and legal representatives of the deceased being in full
proportion her release recorded appears $87.95
Ditto paid Charles Lose in right of his wife Caroline, a daughter and
one of the heirs and legal representatives of the deceased being in full
proportion her release recorded appears $87.95
Ditto paid Louisa Kuebler, a daughter and one of the heirs and legal
representatives of the deceased being in full proportion her release
recorded appears $87.95
Ditto retained by these accountants as Guardians of Elizabeth Kuebler
Orphan daughter of the deceased being in full proportion $87.95
Ditto retained by same as Guardians of Sophia Kuebler Orphan daughter of
the deceased being in full proportion $87.95
Ditto retained by same as Guardians of John Kuebler Orphan son of the
deceased being in full proportion $87.95
Ditto retained by same as Guardians of Peter Kuebler Orphan son of the
deceased being in full proportion $87.95
Ditto retained by these accountants as Guardians of George Kuebler
Orphan son of the deceased being in full proportion $87.95
Estate accounted for $1119.62
Baltimore City, on the 9th day of March 1854 came John Martin and
Fredericka, his wife, formerly Fredericka Kuebler, administratrix as
aforesaid, and made oath on the Holy Evangely of Almighty God, that the
aforegoing account is just and true as stated and that they have paid or
secured the payment of every sum or sums for which they crave an
allowance which after examination is passed by order of the Orphans
Court Test: H Hickman, Register of Wills for Baltimore City
_______________________
More recent finds:
1849 Baltimore City Directory
Mrs. Frederica Kebler, Pennsylvania ave., n. of Wilson st.
1851 Baltimore City Directory
Frederica Kubler, Penn. av. n of Wilson st.
1860 John W. Wood's Baltimore City Directory Kiblen, Frederick, engine & locomotive builder, 92 dolphin (younger)
1860 Census - Baltimore City, 19th Ward, name age occupation birthplace John Martin 55 farmer Nassau Frederica 45 Württemberg Catherine Martin 32 Württemberg Caroline Martin 26 Württemberg William Martin 8 Maryland
1870 Census - Baltimore City, 20th Ward
John Martin, age 64, laborer, born in Nassau
Frederica Martin, age 60, born in Württemberg
Lewis Martin, age 18, plasterer, born in Maryland
1880 Census - Baltimore City, (see Louisa Kibler)
Lewis Martin, age 28, born in Maryland, parents born in Maryland
1900 Census - Baltimore City, 5th District, E. Falls Rd, page 8 name birth age birthplace parents occupation Lewis Martin Jul 1852 47 Maryland Maryland farmer Mary E. wife Oct 1853 46 Maryland Maryland Luther A. son May 1881 19 Maryland Maryland farm labor Charles W. son Nov 1882 17 Maryland Maryland farm labor Cleveland M. son Sep 1884 15 Maryland Maryland farm labor Lucynda dau Jan 1887 13 Maryland Maryland Elizabeth A. Keller mlaw Dec 1833 67 Maryland Maryland [Lewis and Mary married 25 years. Mary 5 children, 4 living, Elizabeth widow]